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Re: starters (bread-bakers.v102.n011)

"Ed Dalton" <edsniche@snet.net>
Fri, 22 Mar 2002 00:28:15 -0500
v102.n013.20
Greg Carpenter wrote:

 >>...even in a sanitized environment, starters that are given the same 
refreshment will become similar.<<

So that throws all the starter information about starters dating back to 
whenever right out the window.

 >>Take pieces of two of your starters and give them the same refreshment 
schedule for 2 weeks. Put them in similar containers (clean, of course). 
Use the same amounts of the same flour and water (at the same 
temperatures), leave them next to each other on the same counter to ferment 
at the same time for the same amount of time.  After 2 weeks bake the same 
recipe with each starter.  Don't do anything to one that you don't do to 
the other.  You'll get the same bread.<<

So a starter can be no older than two weeks, interesting.

So this whole San Francisco thing is a farce, different water, different 
flour, so the thing changes every two weeks and there is nothing they can 
do about it.  Some of those places claim their cultures are 150 years old. 
Your saying Sourdough Internatioal and others selling starters with claims 
of the starters being from days gone by are all bogus.  Even if they use 
lab conditions to propagate the starter, the starter they start with can 
only be two weeks old, they should be sued!  Poor ole Carl Griffith is 
gonna turn over in his grave to find out his 1847 Oregon Trail Sourdough 
Starter <http://home.att.net/~carlsfriends/> passed down in his family for
generations and now keep going by his freinds changes every two weeks.  All 
those folks that came from the "old country" and brought family starters 
that they had passed down for gernerations just weren't smart enough to 
realize their bread was different every two weeks, all that trouble for 
nothing.

I know I'm glad to find this out.  I will throw all my starters away and 
start new ones since they will be the same anyway.

Makes one wonder where all this symbiotic relationship crap came from to 
begin with.  I guess it is silly to think that one organism can supply 
something unique to another and that organism returns the favor by 
supplying something the other guy wants to the exclusion of others that 
want to get in on the good thing.

Now we all know.

Ed